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CPAC Speaker Condemns CPAC For Allowing GOProud, Booed Off Stage

At the 2010 Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) today, there was a segment to recognize student conservative activists. When Ryan Sobra of the California Young Americans for Freedom organization went up to speak, instead of giving the speech he was scheduled to give, he decided to publicly denounce CPAC for allowing the gay conservative group GOProud to attend.

"Just to change the subject for just a second, I'd like to condemn CPAC for bringing GOPride (sic) to this event," he said. The audience then erupted into a loud boo. Watch the video of the entire exchange below:

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Most of us who will not tolerate the corruption of the conservative GOP by the flaunting of inappropriate sexual behavior decided not to come to CPAC in the first place.
The only reason for the "Proud" Group to show up as a "PAC" is to tell the rest of us that they have sexual relations with people of the same sex. I don't want to know.

Let them attend as Conservatives.

That is bullcrap, they were not there to dress up in extravagent clothing or have some pride-fest, they were there to show that gays are welcome in the conservative movement, and that a government that bans marriage between two loving people no matter the gender is not small government values at all, but rather represents an authoritarian big government.

I don't believe I want to know in public - keep that private, please.
Glad I wasn't there: I don't wish to cooperate with their attempt to act as though it's normal to identify oneself by sexual impropriety or to act as though there is such a thing as "marriage" between people of the same sex.

More federal money has gone towards finding a "cure" for AIDS than into research for every other fatal disease COMBINED over the last 20 years. And we still have no cure for AIDS, unless you count taking 20 pills each day for life a "cure". Google "AIDS: a glamorous multi-billion dollar intustry". That's 20 years of forced Conservative financial support for gay activity, so I think the Repubs have more than paid their dues to gays and now we are all feeling a financial pinch.
Supporting GOProud means offering more revenue to them to continue to engage in the risky AIDS-contracting behavior with the government's financial blessing; not exactly my definition of "small government" no.

The platform doesn't define conservatism. It has been held hostage by a tiny radical element hell-bent on turning the GOP's big tent into either a pup tent or some kind of "revival" tent. That applies as much to the horrendous Texas GOP platform (available as PDF from the state party site) as the national one. These documents don't reflect the broadest views within the party but contain objectionable statements that alienate not only independent voters but also other Republicans.

Under your definition, Reagan wasn't conservative: he helped raise money for Log Cabin Republicans and actively campaigned against the Briggs Initiative in California a couple years before the 1980 primaries (even Briggs later had a change of heart about his proposal, which lost in big part to Reagan's public opposition; it would've targeted gay and lesbian teachers in public schools). Under your definition, Barry Goldwater also wasn't conservative: he opposed the ban on gays in the military, thought they should be allowed to marry, etc.

Moreover, Goldwater came to despise the Religious Right because they weren't conservatives -- he viewed them as an insidious threat to real conservatism because their agenda wasn't based on expanding freedom but rather was oriented at authoritarianism of a theocratic sort. He joked with Bob Dole in 1996 that all of a sudden they were "liberals in the GOP" -- even though they're not the ones who'd changed; what had changed was that the GOP had a surge of southern white evangelical activists who suddenly decided everyone else was a "RINO."

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''The conservative movement is founded on the simple tenet that people have the right to live life as they please, as long as they don't hurt anyone else in the process.''

In the same article, Goldwater warned that ''the radical right has nearly ruined our party.''

''Its members do not care about the Constitution and they are the one making all the noise,'' he said.

http://www.azcentral.com/specials/special25/articles/0531goldwater2.html
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There's much more I could add to this to demonstrate that your view of conservatism isn't shared by many, but hopefully you get the point from two of the GOP's most influential -- and most conservative -- leaders of the past half century. What's being passed off as "conservatism" today from certain factions isn't conservative at all. I don't know who's been flaunting what at you, but I'd be more than happy to flaunt more truth your way -- and I'm sure you know the truth will set you free.

CPAC is independent of the GOP so it doesn't matter what "the platform" says. Please tell us what representatives from GOProud said or did which was of a sexual nature and why they should have to play by different rules from any other specific interest organization represented at CPAC?

The only reason to self-identify as "GOProud" is be to tell us their sexual proclivities. Show me another "special" interest that can *only* *self-identify*  - or are you saying that we can just look at people and tell who's homosexual and who's not? "Please tell us what representatives" of other "special interests" choose as their "special" characteristic something that they claim should be none of our business because it's done in the privacy of their own bedrooms? GOP Hookers? GOP Sex Addicts? GOP Fetishists? The Sex Addicts are already over with the Dems, where they belong.

The presence of GOProud wasn't sexual. CPAC hosted several panels including this one:

http://texasgopvote.com/blog/rise-latino-conservatism-02196

Identity groups don't just include people of certain races. I consider the Christian Coalition and all the other religious-based identity groups to be of the same kind as groups like Log Cabin, GOProud, etc. They also fit your own "definition": I don't know who's a Christian or "values voter" just by looking. I wouldn't deny any of them a place in the big tent even though I disagree with them on a few issues. It's none of my business what they believe in their own homes unless they try to use the force of government to make me believe it or act upon it in some manner.

In an era in which presidential candidates are winning with popular vote totals nearly even, and with state vote totals in some cases just as tight and throwing the Electoral College either way, I think it's foolish to try to make the party smaller by limiting activism. The same applies to Congressional races in such a polarized climate with a fickle electorate. Every vote counts, and the GOP should want to win as many of them as possible.

I agree with Reagan on this. Someone who's with you 80% or more of the time is worthy of support. I realize some people think the GOP is supposed to be run like a church with all kinds of purity and litmus tests on one or two issues.  Why should it be any different for those who identify with the gay community (which isn't about sexual activity as much it is about orientation) as those who identify with the Christian community? We don't tell the Religious Right people to keep it quiet about their religious views, to leave it in their churches (even though I believe toning down the bigotry and "social warfare" rhetoric would only boost the GOP's chances in more races).

We're a political party, not an outgrowth of southern evangelicalism. It's time for the party, and its platform, to reflect that.

I recall that during the GOP convention in NYC in 2004, there was a mass migration of hookers from Washington, DC and Las Vegas into New York. I remember laughing, because it never occured to me that there was a lack of supply in NYC...

There are laws that discriminate against gay people. Of <ul>course</ul> they have formed political interest groups around their sexuality. You and I don't have to lobby for our rights as heterosexuals - usually: are we going to condemn people who are against the "marriage penalty" in the tax laws as flouting their sexuality, as well?

John Ensign. Mark Sanford. Newt Gingrich's 3 or 4 marriages. Larry Craig. Heck, Reagan was a divorcee.

If you don't practice what you preach, that just makes you a hypocrite. But when you try to put the force of law behind your personal beliefs and prejudices, that makes you a liberal.

It was obvious he was booed for criticizing CPAC. Not for his views of homosexuals which are shared by all in addendence.

not true. that was mostly young americans for liberty who are pro gay rights

I was in attendance.  Most of the people there were booing him because of his un-professionalism.  He was supposed to give a 2 minute speech about campus activism, and instead he ranted for 2 minutes about gay marriage.  I talked with many people after the whole incident, and most people who were booing did so because they thought he was being inconsiderate to the other panel members who spoke about their campus activism during their 2 minute period.  Sorba was booing during much of McCobin's speech, interrupting him, etc..  There were many people booing - most of whom were not Young Americans for Liberty members.  YAL as an organization doesn't even take a stance on marriage.  

When Thomas Jefferson created the Republican party it was after he pushed for a separation of church and state, but here we are 220 years later letting religion corrupt the core value of our party. I mean no offense to Christians, but to those who are against homosexual people, this is your opinion and hatred, not my party's value. My party's values are low taxes ... all of them,  but Coolidge comes to mind 90 years ago, individual freedoms for everyone,,,, as Abraham Lincoln proclaimed 140 years ago, to protect our natural environment.... as Theodore Roosevelt prescribed 110 years ago, to slim down government and to make it more efficient.... as all of them have tried to do; to strengthen and protect our country through open diplomacy (Nixon) or force if needed; and once again and most of all civil rights for every American born in this great country... all of them but Ike comes to mind. 
Through this country's great history Republicans have lead the way and will continue to do so with or without you, and I am sorry if this offends you but our Constitution trumps your bible. As was stated at the onset of the United States "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" 
All means all.

Way to further the divide.  There are PLENTY of gay people that would stand united with us on more important conservative issues.  It is time for the conservative movement to embrace their homosexual brothers and sisters in hopes of strengthening our base against the oppression of Obama and his cronies.
Let's face it, hate crime laws, same sex marriage, etc. will not hurt us.  Even if homosexuality is a sin, it is God and God alone that will make that final judgment.  
United We Stand.  Divided We Fall.  Let's take our country back.

GOProud stands for gays only. I'm straight. I don't want my taxes to increase to support gay and polygamous marriages nationwide. Taxed Enough Already means stop foreign spending first. They don't stand for me.
This is all propoganda straight from After the Ball, the 1990 book that talked about how "gay Republicans will blow people's minds!" uh, see, I read, so I'm not buying into it.
The same book talks about getting the APA in their pocket with money.
Well played, but it's pure nonsense.